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  • #36131
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    Question for everybody:-

    What benefits would community wifi bring us and what are your opinions on it?

    #36726
    ,dolan
    Participant

    Not a lot by the looks of it.
    Mind you what benefit did the invention of the fishing hook bring?

    #36725
    ,Ronnie
    Participant

    Please excuse my ignorance and I know that it is none of my buisiness, but can I ask what Wifi is and what it means to Killin…….Thank’s.

    #36736
    ,Hayaain
    Participant

    Is there any WiFi broadband access within the village?

    #36727
    ,dolan
    Participant
    Hayaain;565 wrote:
    Is there any WiFi broadband access within the village?

    Yes.
    Killin Hotel has wi-fi. Not sure what the range is but you can certainly get on within the hotel reception, bar and village pub and probably covers the car park.
    There are actually two networks available.
    If you want to use it and are having problems ask at reception or failing that contact me.

    #36737
    ,Hayaain
    Participant

    Is there any chance of a temporary access close to the greengrocers? :>)

    #36728
    ,dolan
    Participant
    Hayaain;567 wrote:
    Is there any chance of a temporary access close to the greengrocers? :>)

    Sounds like Big G has to put up or shut up then!

    #36714
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    WTF is the comment supposed to mean then Dolan?

    Okay Hayaain, there is a BT Openzone Hotspot in Killin –

    http://btopenzone.hotspot-directory.com/site_details_google.php?site_id=648726

    Other than that the Library provides internet access via their computers.

    Julie Rhys’ Computer Group on a Thursday has a wireless system set up in the McLaren Hall (Thats the big community hall at the bottom of the village, Dolan) I’m sure you could get online somehow down there.

    Plenty of options but it’s a no to getting online via the greengrocers. They sell carrots, onions, apples and the like!

    Welcome to Killin Frank 🙂

    Big G

    #36720
    ,lizziekillin
    Participant

    Although I dont need to use community wi-fi here, I could see it as being attractive to visitors. We do now live in a world where people like to keep an eye on their emails 24-7, so to have more wi-fi hotspots would only be a good thing for the community. :typing:

    #36721
    ,vic
    Participant

    You paint a wonderful picture of all our visitors sitting outside Shutters typing replies to Dolan on their Wi-Fi enabled computers. Not to mention Dolan wandering round the Killin hotel looking for that elusive hot spot whilst keeping an eye out for webcams. Maybe you should expand your business Dolan, there is clearly a business case for establishing a hot spot from the butchers shop, it’s available to let! and opposite the greengrocers as well.

    #36738
    ,Hayaain
    Participant

    Hi Big G

    Thanks for your reply.

    I have connected via the BT Openzone no problem.

    Can ypu chuck over a kilo of Jerusalem artichokes please!

    FC

    #36715
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    One thing I noticed about the basic package from BT Openzone and the other Wi-Fi providers was the pricing, I thought it to be rather expensive and much like old PAYG dialup services where telephone bills could get way out of hand without realising!

    As I was only wanting to get online for a short time while at the airport I didn’t want to buy a huge package and be left with a load of free minutes expiring by the second until the next time my bags are lost (twice in the one holiday) by BA.

    Big G

    #36729
    ,dolan
    Participant

    Big G, I was just suggesting that a wi-fi opposite the greengrocers was a question for you! No offence intened,
    If anyone is interested, there is a website http://www.communitywireless.org/ which promotes connecting together all the wi-fi’s within a community to be able to offer a much wider range of facilities than just browsing etc.
    Would Killin want such a ‘community mesh’?

    #36722
    ,vic
    Participant

    Interesting website Dolan. doesn’t seem to have been updated since 2003 and most of the links don’t work. Have you considered the legal obligations that go along with providing what amounts to ISP facilities to a village. Who is going to be responsible for what the access points are used for and who is going to record and monitor the traffic? Just a thought, the technology is simple, the implementation is hard.

    #36730
    ,dolan
    Participant

    Thank you Vic for helping me understand Alistair’s remarks about negative comments. It does diminish ones desire to respond positively doesn’t it? Still I suppose I should be pleased I no longer hold the monopoly on negativity here.
    Personally I have never actually seen the necessity for websites to be ‘up to date’, given that it is an information resource, and thankfully most information is not new. The information on the site is still a lot more current than most sources on the subject. True lots of the links don’t work, but isn’t that down to the sites being linked too? One of the dangers of providing such links is that those you link are not always aware that they need to manage this too.
    Yes I have considered the legal implications. Strangely enough there are few if you intend to utilise the existing infrastructure to do it. Anyone with a broadband connection connected to a wi-fi device is arguably an ‘ISP’. The legal requirement is that any message packet is traceable, which provided you use any available packet management software, is. Personally I’m not convinced this is absolutely necessary anyway. After all I can post you an abusive letter without the Post Office knowing where it came from, and I can go and buy a mobile phone and make any call I like without ever having to divulge my identification, so why should the Internet be any different? In reality of course it is, every message sent can be traced back to the actual computer it was sent from, and the precise time, route and contents can be discovered by any government that grants itself the power to know. It is the technology that is difficult, the implementation, increasingly, is dictated to us.
    What I am interested in is how can the available technology be utilised to benefit a community like Killin rather than how to police its use. I will leave the latter to those who choose to try.
    I would however love to here about any new ways of using it to improve our lives.
    Like:
    Ordering artichokes?
    Reducing bandwith requirements?
    Enabling new residents to go online whilst waiting for BT?
    Having a webcam on every house?
    Who knows what we could do with it?

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