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  • #36267
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    Word has just gotten round to me from the infamous Killin rumour mill that the Killin Agricultural Show 2007 has been cancelled.

    We currently looking for confirmation of the cancellation from those at the helm of the Show and we’ll update you as necessary.

    Webmaster

    #37082
    ,Alistair Ferguson
    Participant

    any idea if the show is on or not

    #37078
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    The Show has indeed been cancelled this year, but the dance will go ahead in the McLaren Hall 🙂

    Webmaster

    #37080
    ,vic
    Participant

    Can you amend the Community Calendar to reflect this then, please.

    #37083
    ,Alistair Ferguson
    Participant

    is the flower show still on?

    #37081
    ,supermack
    Participant

    Gotten? Where’s that come from?

    #37084
    ,Dougie Gray
    Participant

    :americana:americana

    supermack;719 wrote:
    Gotten? Where’s that come from?
    #37085
    ,Dougie Gray
    Participant

    Clearly I’m not THAT switched on re this interweb postin stuff. Sorry.

    #37079
    ,Webmaster
    Participant

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler/aue/gotten.html

    The key is the overlap between the Possessive use of have and the Perfect use of have, plus the fact that one of the senses of get is come to have. If one has come to have a cold, for instance, then one has a cold, and the AmE usage of has got means that one is currently infested, due to the present relevance aspect of the Perfect. This is so common that kids regularly use got without have or even -‘ve to mean have, and young kids even think it’s the regular verb for possession, as witness such constructions as He gots new shoes.

    Faced with the overwhelming interpretation of (ha)ve got as simply have, AmE has innovated a new past participle gotten to be used whenever other, non-possessive forms of get are intended.

    If one is simply speaking of the acquisition of something, for instance, rather than the current possession, one says I’ve gotten ….. in AmE since I’ve got implies that one still has it, and therefore focusses on the current Possession rather than the Perfective acquisition. And all of the idiomatic uses of get, like the get-Passive of get married, the Inchoative become/come to be inherent in get tired, the Concessive of get to go that Crystal mentions, etc. use gotten as their participle. Whereas any construction, even an idiomatic one like have to (= must) where one can use have equally well, use got as the participle.

    Weird, but that’s English for you.

    I was never that hot on English but so long as it got(?) understood? Looks like an “are” is missing from the second sentence too tut tut.

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